Reports recently surfaced that Cal Ripken discussed a possible position with the Orioles in a baseball capacity, but was turned down by Peter Angelos. Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com reported the story, claiming that sources told him that Angelos declined Cal’s interest, primarily because he didn’t want Cal to get the credit if and when the team returned to prominence. However, Angelos has refuted the report, telling ESPN the Magazine’s Buster Olney that no such discussion took place; and that if Cal wanted to sit down and discuss a role in the organization, he would be more than happy to meet with him.
Many fans (myself included) would love to see Cal Ripken, Jr. with a meaningful role in the Oriole organization, if indeed that is what he wants. Ripken as of yet has neither confirmed or denied that he has met with the team to discuss a role. There are those out there who would categorize Angelos’ purported decision to deny Cal a role as more of the meddling we had been accustomed to before Andy MacPhail began running the club. And if it was reported, and Ken Rosenthal believed the sources enough to put it out, then there must be some smoke somewhere in the warehouse. But Angelos lately hasn’t been that meddlesome owner we railed against though the years. So who do you believe?
Personally, I think the organization can find a role for Ripken, even if it’s as a sounding board for MacPhail. Cal has been around the game for years, and can communicate his knowledge and give the organization a unique perspective on certain issues. If he wants to help the hometown team, by all means consider it. Given the way the current season has begun, any kind of help would be appreciated.
The one thing EVERYONE should take from this whole fiasco that is now unfolding has nothing to do with Cal.
Cal isn't gonna fix a damn thing if he ever came in and took a position with the team.
This right here: "Angelos, however, nixed the idea in a separate conversation with Ripken, telling him, according to three sources, that he did not want Ripken to receive credit once the team returned to prominence."
is all you need to know. Rosenthal says THREE sources confirmed this. Folks, it's time that everyone realizes what is going on here and stops keeping their head in the sand.
And I'll tell you another thing. You can bet Angelos is running around right now trying to find out who these sources are. If they are from within the organization they will be fired. If he finds out some people from Cal's camp leaked it? Ha. You might never see Cal Ripken at another Oriole event as Angelos will considered that bridge burned to pieces.
This organization is a complete and total mess. I defy anyone to try to argue that.
I agree with part of Marks statement above. Cal won't fix anything here. The fans in this city WORSHIP the ground this guy walks on…and why?
– Is it because he charges 150 bucks for an autograph?
– Because later in his career he didn't travel or stay with the Orioles?
– Because he can't be seen at any O's event despite being a local guy?
– Because he makes sellers pull merchandise with his name on it off of eBay?
Good player, terrible guy.
Someone tell me how Cal was going to fix anything here. He knows the team was headed in the right direction and he wants to be credited with it. He's not stupid.
All about the money for Cal, but you can't tell that to the fans looking through their number 8 glasses.
Zach
This team is headed in the right direction? This team is headed for an IMPLOSION.
You actually are spinning this into something that Cal conspired to do because he wants to take credit for this imaginary turnaround Angelos and you speak of?
You cannot be serious.
And again, you have missed the entire point. Cal Ripken is secondary to the real issue. And that issue is Angelos.
Who cares if it were Cal, Brooks, or Boog. The fact that Angelos' ego is so big that he doesn't want anyone taking credit for a turnaround (insert joke here) is the real issue.
How can you sit here and write that this team is headed in the right direction?
It defies logic.
Headed in the right direction???? Are you sipping the tootie frootie? Right direction would mean up but this team is going down, worse than the years prior?? Come on, you can't be that gullible and that much of a homer. You have got to be the only person that thinks they are headed in the right direction other than STD.
Look, I don't like Cal and if he was a 1st baseman or 3rd sacker he wouldn't be in the hall with his stats. But look at this picture… Angelos won't hire him because he doesn't want Cal taking Angelos credit for turning the team around! What does that tell you about the overall state of the O's? An owner worried about looking good!
And Cal, he thinks he should get whatever he wants. He has one of the biggest ego's around but people around here think he is great because he played in so many straight games. Let the SOB get a real job and go to work all those days in a row like us down in the trenches guys. All he had to do was bend over maybe 3/4 times a game and swing a bat 3 times. Egotistical joke and not even a team guy!!!
No one commented about my other 100 words, just the ones about the team. I think the Orioles aren't living up to their potential and are finding ways to lose ball games in the first month of the season.
Ripken is as egotistical as they come and that's the topic on this thread. I invite anyone to tell me otherwise.
Cal might be part of it but the main issue is Angelos.
My god why can't people understand how horrible an owner he is and how he has ruined the franchise and continues to screw it up.
Substitute Cals name with Brooks or Boog and you still have the Angelos as the culprit.
HE DOESN"T CARE ABOUT WINNING.
By the way, I came across this article from 2006 and it made me laugh.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050928&…
This is the best part.
The past six games with the Red Sox and Yankees have exposed an irritating issue for some club officials and players. A majority of the fans who have come to the Camden Yards have supported the opposing team. Angelos said he has noticed the trend, but is not as bothered by as some of his Orioles contemporaries.
"We don't mind that," he said. "The fans who come to support their team bring their children with them. They are not a bunch of rowdies. Many bring their entire family to the ballpark, and I think that's a compliment to the game of baseball. They patronize the merchants and the local business. And soon we'll get the fans back, because we'll make the necessary moves and acquisitions to compete favorably."
It seems like it's taking some people longer than others to accept what is truly going on with this franchise.
Eventually everyone will know. But judging by the attendance for the 1st home stand and the utter disaster that is the current team, it's getting close to the point where everyone sees the light.
I'm working on an article you may like Mark. It should be out around Monday and is all about the O's attendance. There's no way around the disappointments this season.
Here is something for your article. Real fans go to support their teams through thick and then. Fake fans and bandwagoners go when the team is winning. I used to go to 50-70 game a year from 76-85. Win, lose or draw, rain, I was there no matter what. If I was in town, I would be there. Everytime I come back, I am there. I don't care what kind of team is on the field, I am there. that's a real fan. Feel free to quote me.
Nails
Good to have you back!
Listen up
You have no clue about who is a real fan and who is a fake fan.
In fact, you're too stupid to know the difference.
You are right, I am stupid, for replying to your post.
So glad you dropped by Nails. I've been waiting for some good o's fans to support my efforts.
So glad you dropped by Nails. I've been waiting for some good o's fans to support my efforts.
So glad you dropped by Nails. I've been waiting for some good o's fans to support my efforts.
So glad you dropped by Nails. I've been waiting for some good o's fans to support my efforts.
So glad you dropped by Nails. I've been waiting for some good o's fans to support my efforts.
So glad you dropped by Nails. I've been waiting for some good o's fans to support my efforts.
I hope you aren't getting advice from Greg Bader.
Nope I'm not.
I'm enjoying the marshmallow cheese you gave me STD. Is it only at "Trader Joe's"?. I asked the Amish folks at their Annapolis stand but they said that their chips are from Piggly Wiggly and that the Cracker Barrel in North Carolina was indeed the one that was built entirely on Kitty litter and bacon bits. So it is true what you heard.
I'm utterly confused.
Understand your confusion, you are too young to realize what a person Ripken really is. I would ask that you seek information from your dad or uncle but not that perv Ravens 2488.
I am enjoying the STD that STD gave me when I read hi post on Ripken. Next, I guess I will be reading that Mussina was a great Oriole or that Joe Altobelli did not win with weaver's team.
If I were Angelos and I thought ANYONE may be able to turn this franchise around, I'd listen. This is actually the first time in quite some time that I will take Ripken's side. If Angelos really said these things, about Ripken getting the credit, then he should be run out on a rail.
SCREW RIPKEN! Remember the stop sign incident trying to get an autograph? Remember Kelly Gruber threatening to bust you in half when you hollered that Ripken was Horny For Men? Remember when Ripken said Manny Alexander couldn't hold his jock? When Ripken held the team hostage to sign him or he would go public. F Ripken, F Ripken. I am dissapointed in you STG, you used to be my hero. Had a view and stuck to it. You are the guy who showed me that Miggy and Ripken had nearly identical stats. You the Hard Balls hater, who hates even after the pllayoffs, standing your ground. Have you given in to ME First Ripken? OMG. I guess you have gone back to watching The Young and the Restless and you sided with Kate instead of Jon?
Hear me out…
I'm saying if Angelos is worried about who's going to take credit, that's a problem.
Quite frankly, I'm starting the think the Orioles released this story themselves! Seriously, what a way to cover this horrid start and get the fans talking about something other than the losing. You can hate on Angelos all you want, but the guy is shrewd.
Amen Nail! AMEN! He disappointed me in this argument too. I could care less about Cal.
Screw Ripken. What is he going to do start a streak in the front office? What has he done to benefit this team since he reired, not a damn thing. Has he courted free agents? Has he courted unsigned draft picks? Has he helped sell one seat at OPACY? Hell no. If it cannot benefit someone with the last name Ripken, he ain't interested. Maybe beer man Clancy can show him how to sling some Bud Ligghtd sisearm. maybe Ralph Salvon and Earl showed him how to grow tomatoes.
We need him like we need hemmoroids. Maybe he would hire Brady Anderson and he can show the team how to come out of nowhere and jack 50 homers. Ripken can have classes on how to be a selfish SOB player and still have everyone kiss his feet. For all the things Raffy did wrong, banging Kelly Ripken was great. SO, screw Ripken. Hire him to mow some lawns, pull out the tarp, otherwise he can GTH. stay up in Aberdden and sell that stadium out you bum.
Nails –
Time to pull out all the stops. 13 years of losing baseball, no end in sight. I'm not saying Cal-Pie can help, but you at least gotta listen. Hell, if Dan Synder said he could help at this point, I'd listen.
Pulling out all the stops means opening the wallets in free agency and firing Trembley. Now if Ripken really wants to do somethinh to help, he can blow the dust off old #8 and take a seat in the dugout and manage this team, with Eddie as the bench coach.
Can't be any worse than Trembles and Mr. Irrelevant (Datz)
Who Datz?
The idea that Zach and NIN think that they are better fans or somehow good fans because they tolerate this garbage is laughable.
I am no better fan than the next guy. What I am is a true fan. I don't tolerate a bad team but I still support it. I have a kid named Ed and he is severely retarded, when he does bad things and I he gets put off the half loaf bus, I still love him. When he gets bad grades at Glen Burnie High, I still love him and support him. Do you get my point? So I am no better of a father either but I support my boy Ed!
Right on Marky Mark. Agree with you big time… Its nothing about fans but about the overall organization…
Again, all these fans went into the season thinking that the O's would be decent and yet again they were deflated. How many times are they going to take this? Apparently quite a few have already given up with a couple attendances of 9 & 4 k this past week…
And now you have Angelos worrying about who will get credit if this team does turn around…
NIN probably has a pea sized brain with his comments… I'd love to meet that guy…
Actually, I had my brain measured once and it is the size of a marble. The doctor told me I had an African American guy's brain, not sure if that was a compliment or not. I would like to down some beers and crabs with you gays. I wll be in town 1 July for one night only. My partner rented a place downey ocean for us to relax away from the rigors of San Francisco. Trying to go to the Oakland game that night. Would like to meet STG, Mark, 2488, Will-o, and the young man named Zack. Seems like a good enough kid.
I'm in!
You're in? The game, beer or crabs?
All.
I got crabs